the front side of Fire Nation Archers
the back of a classic MtG card
the front side of Mana Echoes
the back of a classic MtG card

Color Identity: R

Initial Card State

  1.  Fire Nation Archers and Mana Echoes on the battlefield.

Mana Needed

  1. thirteen generic mana available.

Steps

  1. Activate Fire Nation Archers by paying five generic mana, dealing 2 damage to each opponent and creating a 2/2 Soldier creature token.
  2. When the Soldier enters, Mana Echoes triggers.
  3. Holding priority, activate Fire Nation Archers by paying five generic mana, dealing 2 damage to each opponent and creating a 2/2 Soldier creature token.
  4. When the Soldier enters, Mana Echoes triggers.
  5. Resolve the Mana Echoes triggers from steps 2 and 4, adding one colorless manaone colorless mana for each Soldier you control.
  6. Activate Fire Nation Archers by paying five generic mana, dealing 2 damage to each opponent and creating a 2/2 Soldier creature token.
  7. When the Soldier enters, Mana Echoes triggers, adding one colorless mana for each Soldier you control.
  8. Repeat from step 6.

Notes

  1. The starting mana cost assumes you control no other Soldiers when starting the combo. If you control more Soldiers, the mana needed is as follows: ten generic mana for one Soldier, eight generic mana for two Soldiers, six generic mana for three Soldiers and five generic mana for four or more Soldiers. If you control two or more Soldiers, only perform steps 6 through 8.

Results

  1. Infinite creature ETB.
  2. Infinite colorless mana.
  3. Infinite damage.
  4. Infinite creature tokens.

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How much mana gets Mana Echoes going?

Each new creature makes Mana Echoes add one colorless mana for every creature you control that shares a type with it, so the loop costs less the more of them you have. Activating again before the Mana Echoes triggers resolve makes each of them count more creatures.

Mana to startthirteen generic mana

Each loop costs
five generic mana
Loops before it pays for itself
4
Mana to start
Your mana, step by step
  • To start: thirteen generic mana
  • Pay five generic mana: 8 left
  • Pay five generic mana: 3 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 2: 5
  • Pay five generic mana: 0 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 3: 3
  • Mana Echoes adds 3: 6
  • Pay five generic mana: 1 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 4: 5
  • Pay five generic mana: 0 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 5: 5
  • Pay five generic mana: 0 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 6: 6
  • Pay five generic mana: 1 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 7: 8
  • Pay five generic mana: 3 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 8: 11
  • Pay five generic mana: 6 left
  • Pay five generic mana: 1 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 10: 11
  • Pay five generic mana: 6 left
  • Pay five generic mana: 1 left
  • Mana Echoes adds 12: 13
  • Pay five generic mana: 8 left
  • Pay five generic mana: 3 left
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